Rediculous to sublime

The Government destroys an entire industry worth about $300 million a year and then offers the loosers $30 million to go away and be quiet. Won’t work. Gillard says there is no quick fix for the ALP’s huge stuff-up and it’s certainly true that offers from the government aren’t going to help any time soon. Some properties have tens of thousands of dollar fuel bills just to water their stock and others are paying more in monthly interest bills than the $5,000 immediate support offered. A suggestion of maybe up to $20,000 later is not even going to pay the monthly fuel bills on some properties. Meanwhile the cost of meat drops across the nation as everyone tries to sell off their surplus beef previously allocated to Indonesia. This may be good news for families suffering from other ALP stuff-ups but not the beef producers. Opposition Leader Tony Abbott said: ”I think that the cattle industry doesn’t want welfare, they want their trade back.” while the Greens advocate eliminating the entire industry. Greens leader Bob Brown condemned the bailout, arguing the live export trade should be banned.
”It’s got the aim of resuming the slaughter in Indonesia of Australian livestock, and the Greens are the only party which doesn’t want to see that happen,” he said.
Now that’s a cavalier way of treating the livelihood of hundreds of workers and businesses involved in the $300 million trade. The Greens are the only party that doesn’t want live trade resumed because they don’t care about such things as livelihoods while it conflicts with their perfect unlivable world. We are being badly governed for the minority and it’s not going to get better any time soon.

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  • Red to pale green…..I like that one Kev.

  • Kev
    About as many believe that red/green myth as believe Abbott is a reincarnation of Heinrich Himmler.
    Until we start treating refugees as human beings, there are plenty of Australians who would not support either Labor or the Coalition. Part of this is the reason behind the consistent support for the Greens which hasn’t dropped below 11% for the last five newspolls.
    The land of the fair go is now the land of the piss-off.

    • About as many believe that red/green myth as believe Abbott is a reincarnation of Heinrich Himmler.
      You’ve got to be kidding me

      The Greens range from warm & fuzzy tree huggers to out and out communists….always have.

  • They call themselves green because they are too yellow to say red. Lord Monckton.

  • Kev

    From the article you linked to –

    “Some of the hype is plain nasty and hysterical, fanned by Labor and Coalition figures convinced Rhiannon has eyes for Brown’s long-held throne.”

    And

    “She also set up the ”Democracy for Sale” campaign, which exposed Labor and Liberal links to the development industry and earned her some heavy-weight enemies.”

    And

    “Because her parents were ”known communists”, Rhiannon boasts an ASIO file five volumes thick, the first entry written by government spies when she was just seven.”

    All three extracts are on the money, especially the second one. It doesn’t pay to threaten the ingrained corruption in public life in this country.

    If she indeed had an ASIO file at age seven (which I doubt – your writer probably got a bit carried away) it’s a pretty fair indication of the level of paranoia around at the time. The same paranoia exists today, only it isn’t Reds under the bed these days, it’s Greens in the beans.

    harry buttle

    If Monkton did say this, it indicates the level of credibility you can attach to his opinions on AGW. He has form after all (Garnaut – Fascist – remember?).

  • 173 etc, if you listen to Moncktons actual quote in context he is right, Garnauts position is objectively fascist. Don’t let the facts get in your way, not that they ever have.

  • “Some of the hype is plain nasty and hysterical, fanned by Labor and Coalition figures convinced Rhiannon has eyes for Brown’s long-held throne.”

    She does.

    “Garnaut – Fascist – remember?”

    Yup, and given the lefts’ hysterical response to that eminently sensible and accurate comment it was a prescient observation too.

    Facist/facsism: “forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism”, “an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism”, an ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc, that may be characterized as chauvinist and authoritarian…”

    A perfect description of Bobby Brown’s virulently xenophobic bio-centrist Greens – they are an abomination with their confused anti-civilization, anti-liberal, anti-modern and anti-urban utterings founded as they are in an absurd agrarian fantasy.

    There is little difference between the notions of the Greens and the philosophy of Pol Pot and the progenitors of Germany’s National Socialists Wilhelm Riehl and Richard Darré – the “father of the Green movement”.

    It is clear from their ramblings that the goal of the Green ecofascists in power will be “genocide developed into a necessity under the cloak of environment protection”.

    As Ernst Lehmann wrote in 1934.

    “Only through a re-integration of humanity into the whole of nature can our people be made stronger. That is the fundamental point of the biological tasks of our age. Humankind alone is no longer the focus of thought, but rather life as a whole . . . This striving toward connectedness with the totality of life, with nature itself, a nature into which we are born, this is the deepest meaning and the true essence of National Socialist thought.”

  • Peter W

    I looked through the Green’s policies, but nowhere could I find exhortations to genocide, authoritarian governance or eco-fascism, unless the following examples have a hidden meaning or are in some kind of code –

    “equity of access to the essentials of life and promoting equality are central goals for a civilised society” (2)

    “government finances must be sustainable over the long run; budget deficits and surpluses must balance each other over the business cycle” (8)

    “governments have an important role to play in regulating markets and correcting market failures, but markets where they function well have an important role to play in the allocation of resources” (10)

    There’s even an explicit acknowledgement of the role of markets. Crikey, they’re full of tricks – obviously damning with faint praise. You have to be really sharp to pick up the hidden meaning.

    I also had a lot of trouble finding xenophobia – I guess it must be hidden in this reference –

    “industry policy and major infrastructure decisions must be consistent with national environmental and social goals” (20)

    Yep, that’s it…

    As for Pol Pot, there’s no reference at all. I guess they must have it hidden away in code accessible only to those with a secret green key. Cunning buggers….

    Since you introduced Pol Pot into the discussion, you might enjoy reading this (in reference to the bombing of Cambodia) –

    “The impact of this bombing, the subject of much debate for the past three decades, is now clearer than ever. Civilian casualities in Cambodia drove an enraged populace into the arms of an insurgency that enjoyed relatively little support until the bombing began, setting in motion the expansion of the Vietnam War deeper into Cambodia, a coup d’état in 1970, the rapid rise of the Khmer Rouge, and ultimately the Cambodian genocide.”

    See – http://www.yale.edu/cgp/Walrus_CambodiaBombing_OCT06.pdf

    This has as much to do with the Greens as your Pol Pot reference, but as you never introduce red herrings into the discussion, it must somehow be relevant.

  • “I looked through the Green’s policies, but nowhere could I find exhortations to genocide, authoritarian governance or eco-fascism…”

    Ho, ho ho… Bobby red-herring made a supercilious joke…

    However, I bet he didn’t have to look “through the Green’s policies” at all – they’d be tattooed on his watermelon heart.

  • I don’t often quote members of the Labor party. But occasionally one has to recognise one or two actually understand the Australian condition.

    Labor’s Gary Johns gets it…

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/commentary/anti-human-greens-wont-usurp-labor/story-e6frgd0x-1226089236332

    ‘The Greens are always against war, but some wars are necessary. When push comes to shove the Greens will never defend democracy against fascism or communism, Islamism, or indeed a resource-hungry foe. They will never make the required investment in defence. Theirs is an undergraduate debate about “guns or butter”.’

    The Greens are the enemy of our society. Fortunately they will be crushed at the next election when both conservative and Labor candidates refuse to enter into preference deals with the filth.

  • “Ho, ho ho… Bobby red-herring made a supercilious joke…”
    Ho, ho ho…PeterW avoided the issue.
    Provide some evidence that makes sense instead of a disjointed rant sprinkled with irrelevant quotes.

  • “…a disjointed rant sprinkled with irrelevant quotes.”

    Another bit of humour from Bobby red-herring 17 whatever…

    Looked at your tripe in the cold light of day recently Bobby?

    ‘“Kinda” is a slang diminutive of “kind of”.
    The base word is from the German (kindergarten).’

    Do you try to be dick or it it just the way you are?

  • PeterW reverting to type…..using abuse in the absence of an argument, and still avoiding the issue.

  • Poor Bobby…

    You know if you ask a question – that is a sentence in an interrogative form in order to get information in reply – one might get an answer.

    I’ve trawled through your sludge above, but I cannot see a question mark – just a long demonstration of your poor comprehension skills.

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