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Listening to Home Affairs Minister Jason Claire on the ABC he said the issue of boat arrivals has become ‘poisoned by politics and;
‘’When people are dying the government should be given the power that it thinks it needs to stop this happening…”
As in, it’s the Coalition and the Green’s fault – not the ALPs.
The government has the power Jason. You had the power to stuff it up and now you have the power to fix it up
Gee, Rudd now thinks the UN refugee convention should be modernised to better cope with those most in need of asylum. How long will that take Kevin? Years
Plans announced to maybe build accommodation at Manis Island or maybe near Port Morseby. How long will that take Kevin? Years
People are drowning today, not in the future when the UN might or might not change things or buildings might or might not be built but until the government says things like – no papers – no visa and if you do have papers it is only temporary and if we say No then that’s it, then they will keep on coming and keep on drowning
You want to stop the boat people – then stop them.
NAVY insiders say there is “a growing and burning anger” among sailors on the frontline as they struggle to respond to the spiralling number of deaths and sinkings flowing from the government’s failed asylum-seeker policies.
There is also a “growing’ force of assetts tied up trying to manage Rudd’s stuff-up. The seven patrol boats allocated to the problem have been supplemented by a mine sweeper and a frigate, argueably more naval forces than we deployed during the Vietnam War.
KEVIN Rudd has moved to strip factional powerbrokers of control over the Labor leadership, handing party branch members and MPs equal power to elect the leader to ensure a serving prime minister is never again torn down by a caucus coup.
I can understand where Rudd is coming from but it has long been a system in Australia and in most civilized countries that the elected members of parliament elect their leader. The only time it hasn’t worked well is in the ALP over the life of the last two parliaments.
The common factor and the difference between these governments and all the previous ones has been the incredible incompetence of Rudd and Gillard. Surely the MPs are entitled to vote their leader in or out?
Surely these set of circumstances won’t happen again….surely?
THERESE Rein in a “not a good look for a Labor PM’s wife” moment
Ingeus’s reputation has been tarnished, especially among the poorest and most disadvantaged, after it coerced some unemployed people to work unpaid for 30 hours a week for up to six months in charity shops and big-name retail outlets.
I presume the ACTU are preparing a statement of rightous indignation at the blatant abuse of the workers by a capitalist swine….waiting….waiting.
Interestingly the Pom unemployed get pound stg. 71.70 a week jobs benefit (only pound stg. 50 a week for those aged under 25) That’s $117.85 and $82.18. respectively. Australian Newstart is $250 pw min or twice the local rate as a comparison.
Queensland LNP poll slide. Her better half, or is that her lessor half, have somehow managed to arrange for the press to state that Campbell Newman’s latest polls that have plummeted to 2PP 59:41 to the LNP represent “A chance for Kevin.
Yep. Somehow that’s a positive for Kevin. Just in case you misread it – that’s 59 to the LNP
The people smugglers are still in the limelight as the ALP drags itself slowly up to the start line where Howard was years ago. I really think Kevin believes that because he and President Yudhoyono announced a “Conference” the problem can be put in the pending tray until the elections.
Don’t bet on it.
Lawrence Gribben from Carseldine, Qld, a suburb next door to mine, puts it succinctly;
THE Greens want people-smugglers to decide who comes to Australia,
Kevin Rudd wants the Indonesians to decide and the Coalition wants Australians to decide.
Hmm … spoilt for choice.
Jason Clare, who has had no real-life employment which apparently makes him qualified to be the Minister for Home Affairs, is fighting the good fight. I heard him on the ABC ratting on about the Coalition. Hat tip Jason, the country think the ALP are to blame for the problem – not the Coalition.
Mr Clare said turning boats back didn’t work and that Mr Howard had only sent back a handful. Turning back boasts did work and Howard only turned back a couple because of that fact- it did work….they stopped coming. Admiral Barrie, relevant commander at the time says - “We didn’t have to turn any more back because they stopped coming” . Got that Jason?
He warned turning boats back could lead to a repeat of the Siev 36 incident in which five people died when a vessel was sabotaged in 2009.
Ah, so what you are saying is that if just one asylum seeker says – “I’ll top myself if you don’t let me in” you suggest the nation, the Navy and/or the rescuing ship’s Captain simply fold . Keeping in mind that these people have access to the internet they will all be talking among themselves right now as they wait for their boat. “All we have to do is threaten suicide and they’ll fold – quick, burn your papers and get on the boat – it’s our last chance before adults take over”
He further adds that sometimes sailors have been hurt or were in a situation where they could be, and this is apparently another reason not to have a firm policy. Yes, sometimes sailors do get hurt while carrying out their duties. They are not public servants, bureaucrats, or god forbid, political ALP hacks or clerks. They are servicemen and women and sometimes a sailor has to do what a sailor has to do – ie, obey orders to the best of their ability.
Poor plan Jason – you still need to work on it.
KEVIN Rudd is ordering an intervention into Labor’s NSW branch to stamp out corruption and further limit the influence of wealthy property developers on the party.
I presume then, that Craig Thomson is gone. He’s NSW Labor, right? :roll:
The fact that the NSW ALP have been corrupt for years should have brought about some action before now. As it is, it just looks like Rudd is ticking off boxes to get re-elected.
Say some words about NSW ALP corruption ….done, Well almost but;
If you just say property developers can’t join doesn’t that leave it open for crims from other callings to join, and then doesn’t that leave you with having to regularly update the most recent corrupt callings as in, now farmers can’t join…oh, oh, and Real Estate guys can’t join…damn it! taxi drivers can’t join either and ad infinitum. Wouldn’t it just be smarter to ensure all who joined had a track record of honesty and respect for public monies.
Or is that too hard for the current ALP?
Say some words about illegal immigrants………done, Well, almost done but;
The Prime Minister last night joined his new Immigration Minister in admitting his government got things wrong in 2009 when it failed to stop the burgeoning people-smuggling trade.
No! You got things wrong when you cancelled Howard’s boat policy.
Rudd goes on to maintain his “push” rather than “pull” excuse citing the Sri Lankan war as a new factor.
But that promise (pre-election) had been offered at a time when the international refugee situation was more benign.
The Sri Lankans escaping the war had plenty of places to go but Australia’s open border policy offered far better financial benefits and they considered it well worth the risk.
Rudd, Carr and Burke are politically gaming the refugee situation to try and convince the country it wasn’t really their fault – good luck with that fellows.
And from Burke who says;
“The points that (Bob Carr) has raised match what’s been said to me during briefings in terms of some of the key examples of people attempting to rort the system,” Mr Burke said.
Everyone other than the human rights industry have been saying that since 2007 Burke, how come you just heard it?
The ALP are attacking Abbott’s turn back the boats” policy as if is the only string in his bow. It’s a small part of the Lib’s policy and may only be used a few times, just to make a point. TPVs will help and can I suggest if rorters arrive without papers then they have no entitlement tovisas nor should any boat person have access to legal aid. Legal aid should be restricted to Australians.
I’m furious with the situation as it is right now whereby if someone is denied a visa a queue of human rights lawyers instantly forms with the cry ‘Pick Me’…’Pick me – I’ll fight the government for you’
Say some words about trade with Indonesia. Rudd is off to Indonesia tonight with a crew of nervous stewards looking after him. Tomorrow he is apparently going to bring up a trade agreement with Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
I’m sure Yudhoyono would love to start the conversation with;
“Just tell me that you have that idiot Ludwig under control and I might talk live cattle trade. Otherwise we’ll just wait until Abbott is in power – he’s someone we can believe.
The last time Live Export was in the news it was as a result of your party trashing our national strategic ability to feed ourselves – without any warning…on the basis of a left wing TV show.”
He won’t of course and I figure not much will come out of the talks, other than when Rudd exaggerates the outcome for public consumption, as the Indonesians can read polls as well as we can and they will see Rudd as a hologram like Rimmer in Red Dwarf – hollow and pointless but noisy.
They know what he is like and like most Australians, small business, all of the large business and Corporate community, the mining industry and a host of other bodies that have been impacted by six years of Union controlled government, are all just waiting ’till we can start getting the country moving again.
Apparently Rudd has already got a bounce in the polls although not as much as Bob Ellis seems to think. The polls will reflect more that Gillard and her incompetent crew have gone rather than the ALP is suddenly electable.
Rudd’s best chance, in my humble opinion, is to go to the polls as soon as he can to capitalize on the bounce but he has a lot standing in the way of this. The simple matter of staffing his office has to represent a large problem as a certain number of potential candidates will recall all to clearly the way he treated staff last time he was in the chair.
He also has to come up with a new cabinet and the cupboard is pretty bare with the swag of yesterdays ministers queuing up to resign rather than work under Rudd. The new guys, or girls, will be all on ‘L’ plates throughout the election standing mute like targets on the rifle ranges of my youth.
Unless he totally changes the direction of the party, delaying the poll until November will only give the Libs more time to point out his problems and for the public to remember them.
It ain’t going to be easy as although the incompetence of Gillard is fresh in our minds we need to remind the country that Rudd must take his fair share of the incompetence of the government overall.
And this Abbott quote should get a fair bit of airtime of the next month or two;
In 2007 you voted for Kevin and got Julia. In 2010 you voted for Julia and got Kevin. If you vote for the Labor Party in 2013 who knows who you will end up with.
It’s a good question. Has Rudd changed his spots…is he now a leader or still just a bureaucrat wielding unearned power far beyond his competence? Should Rudd lose the election, as is still likely, who will lead afterwards. Likewise, if Rudd wins, which is still unlikely, how long will it be before his troops mutiny?
The 40,000 odd illegal asylum seekers and the subsequent hundreds of deaths are directly attributable to him as is the earlier pink bats and overpriced school halls. Will the new recycled Rudd be any better with his policies?
Can’t see it!
FOREIGN Minister Bob Carr has told a gathering of 40 non-government organisations in Canberra that their rhetoric about asylum-seekers is out of date, unhelpful and won’t be accepted by the Australian people.
In the meeting on Thursday, Senator Carr told the leaders of more than 40 organisations that the old rhetoric about human rights and asylum-seekers no longer described the reality of Australia’s situation.
Instead, Sri Lankans, Iranians and people of many nationalities with no genuine claims to refugee status were coming to Australia by boat. This, he said, was now a sophisticated and well-financed illegal immigration issue. The numbers, at 3000 a month, were intolerably high, Senator Carr said.
This is amazing – finally, after 6 years someone from the ALP has finally stated publicly what us conservative pundits and most of the public have known for all of that time. What Carr didn’t say is we, the ALP are responsible for the whole sorry mess, for the death of hundreds and hundreds of illegal immigrants and we apologise profusely to the Australian people for our inept management.
Failing that he could try and do something about the problem but I guess the ALP are too busy playing “pick the Leader” with brief cross-overs to “Abbott will ruin the country” to do anything the public expect ofthem.
82 days to go – how much more damage can they do?
Andrew Wilkie in yesterday’s Weekend Australian;
“I think Julia Gillard is better than that. She doesn’t need to go there. She doesn’t need to run a campaign based on smear and fear,” he said
Well she can hardly run a campaign on ALP achievements Andrew – smear and fear is all she has.
Defence is in the gun again over emails denigrating women.
General Morrison, Chief of Army is cranky and told reporters that a broader group of about 90 Defence personnel – overwhelmingly from the Army – may be on the periphery of the group involved in the email exchange.
…. he said the Australian Defence Force Investigative Service (ADFIS) told ADF chief David Hurley about the matter on April 10.
General Morrison was overseas at the time but was told when he returned soon after. Defence Minister Stephen Smith was also informed at the time.
I presume we have been sitting on this for two months waiting for an ideal time to announce the torrid details and today was definitely an ideal time to change the subject after yesterday’s ALP embarrassment over a derogatory menu.
Based on Tweets from a lib hater who would “rather be raped by a pitbull with aids than live in Abbott’s Australia” it all went pear-shape after the author stated the menu never left the kitchen and it was a joke between himself and his son. This became known last night but fully ninety minutes later the ABC were still on the case reveling in Pilbersec going on and on about that terrible Abbott and his team.
She had to know by that time so she was simply lying and the ABC, who also would have known there was nothing in the story, encouraged her.
I still haven’t heard any apologies or withdrawal from the ALP desparates or the ABC and I don’t expect any.
Catallaxy Files has a pretty good coverage of the affair – be sure to read the comments if you haven’t seen them yet.
You can just see them at ALP HQ…. “quickly we need a distraction – Defence Minister isn’t there a report you have been sitting on for two months? – let’s announce that!
And Defence saves the day again.
It makes sense, doesn’t it?
The Rudd Brigade are in full campaign mode. Polls commissioned by the ALP say that the loss of seats will be less under Rudd. Working on the safe assumption that the only people who like Rudd have never met him, I would caution the ALP about doing anything to encourage the little snide marshmellow.
The timing for this coup would surely be during the next and last sitting of parliament, leaving the electorate a full two months at least to remember why they hated him last time he sat in the chair. And just in case they don’t recall the debacle of the Rudd government, the Libs will be cycling video clips of Swan, Gillard, Shorten et al saying why they can’t work with the little emperor.
“Dysfunctional”, “a man of great weakness“, “Labor colleagues sick of…“type direct quotes of ALP politicians will be on TV all day every day.
Does anyone remember who it was that started the Asylum seekers travesty? Rudd!
So, on the very day that the authorities are out in the ocean trying to save lives but in effect just collecting bodies, journalists and ALP politicians are actually canvassing bringing the little bastard back into power.
The ALP must be aware by now that the country are furious with their open borders policy and still, all they do, is campaign for retention of power.
Here’s a thought.
DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE POOR ASYLUM SEEKERS !
But no, the first reaction of the ALP compliant media is to blame the Australian Border Protection Service. From The Age;
Australia’s border protection service has been accused of causing lives to be lost by responding too slowly to the latest asylum seeker boat tragedy off Christmas Island.
A former Australian ambassador has called for a coronial inquiry into the response by the Australian Customs and Border Protection Service. The Greens also want a more thorough inquiry than the standard internal review.
That report from Fairfax (which campaigned for weaker border protection policies, causing hundreds of lives to be lost) cites the Greens (who campaigned for weaker border protection policies, causing hundreds of lives to be lost) and an ex-ambassador (who campaigned for weaker border protection policies, etc, etc). Now that weaker policies are in place and tens of thousands of asylum seekers are risking death at sea, they’re blaming … the border protection service.
These people are incapable of shame.
Indeed they are!