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MonaShindy

Captain Mona Shindy

When I was serving under the colours if you so much as hinted at a political opinion then the chances are you would be asked to resign your commission.  Professional ADF Officers are required to be apolitical. Or at least they were . Not any more it seems, particularly if you are a Muslim.  Captain Mona Shindy (pictured) is the Chief of Navy’s strategic adviser on Islamic affairs. Strategic adviser on Islamic affairs!  What the hell does that mean? In a Defence situation Strategy is the art of planning and directing overall military operations and movements in a war or battle but apparently not only has the requirement to be apolitical changed but so has the definition of strategy. So, is Captain Shindy's role to advise the Chief of Navy on how to strategically defeat the Islamic Terrorists? No! It would appear her role is to attack any Australian politician who says anything negative about Islam.  As senior Muslim in the Navy Captain Shindy has been operating  a Twitter account. From The Australian;
A navy Twitter account has been shut down after its most senior Muslim officer retweeted a counter-terrorism expert mocking Tony Abbott following the Liberal Party leadership coup and backed the Grand Mufti’s ­response to the Paris terrorist ­attacks.
Two reasons to ask her to resign her commission right there in that one sentence.  Publicly Mocking a politician and siding with the enemy.
On November 18, five days after the Paris attacks, Captain Shindy used the @navyislamic account to declare Dr Abu Mohamed was a “righteous & courageous man who categorically denounces” Islamic State and terrorism, tweeting the hashtag #IStandWithTheMufti.
Take her uniform off her and let her #StandwiththeMufti who thinks causative factors such as foreign policy, the media and lack of opportunity were fuelling Islamic extremism. That is, the West are to blame. The Chief of Navy and the Minister for Defence need to be questioned by the Media as to how this situation has been allowed to continue.  However, that's not going to happen anytime soon as the Media most probably think it's a good thing.  As the ADF continues to march towards political correctness as dictated by the Left they are losing their emphasis on defending the realm. Sack her! Bernard Gaynor has a lot more about Captain Shindy but Defence reckons she's a winner.

25 comments

  • “Sack her”.

    If you’re consistent, Kev, you’d also have to ask for the sacking of the Commander of HMAS Perth. He’d obviously agreed to this little knees up before Redman got cold feet.
    They’d printed the invitations – http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/controversial-fundraiser-on-navy-warship-stood-to-make-thousands-for-wa-nationals-20160107-gm16s6.html
    I wonder what religion he is?

  • Aug 21 2013 SMH, Captain Shindy stated that she would be advocating the wearing of a headscarf and looser clothing for those that wished to wear it in the Navy. Why did she not bring this up beforehand, maybe she was using the age old Islam tactic of getting established first, then create waves (pun intended). Once established she could then play the old racist card.

    Sack her.

  • “At no stage had Defence been told”

    Red herring, Kev.

    It matters not at all whether Defence had been told. If the commander had agreed to allow HMAS Perth to be used as a venue for the fundraiser, which seems very likely, he’d done a sight more than “hinted at a political opinion”.

    He should be relieved of his command.

    • The Commander hadn’t agreed to anything. The story is of a A National MP who thought it might be a good idea, who was advised it wasn’t and then didn’t go ahead with it.
      The Navy weren’t involved because it never got past the thought bubble stage

      No-news day filler targeting those haters who don’t comprehend articles

  • “The Navy weren’t involved because it never got past the thought bubble stage”

    They’d printed posters with dates, details and RSVPs.
    And the ship’s commander had no knowledge?
    Pull the other one, Kev, it’s got bells on.
    I doubt very much that Ivan Ingham would consider that he wasn’t “the Navy” when it comes to HMAS Perth.
    Apparently he maintains a Twitter account – https://twitter.com/ivaningham?lang=en-gb
    But Captain Shindy has had her’s terminated.

    Obviously, a double standard apples……….

  • Maybe Kev, you might have to sit him down in a nice comfy chair with a glass of cream sherry and go through the article word for word, you might then get it through his thick militant ego.

    I don’t eat double standard apples either….lol

    • List of facts for you, Roly, because apparently you need to have them explained and their relevance to the post about Captain Shindy –

      1. Paul Brown, a National member of the WA Legislative Council, advertised 20 spots for luncheon aboard HMAS Perth with state leader Terry Redman and senior party figures.
      2. Posters were printed and issued indicating time, date, location and RSVP arrangements.
      3. The National Party (not the Navy – not the skipper of the “Perth”) publicly cancelled the luncheon when the media got wind of it.
      4. At no time did the skipper of the Perth make any public statement. The reason for this silence is unclear, but it is reasonable to assume that he has been told to leave all comment to the Nationals, to avoid any risk of incriminating himself, and by incriminating himself, also the Navy, of which he is the representative when it comes to what happens on his ship.
      5. Captain Shindy has been muzzled on social media by the Navy because her comments have not gone down well with some elements of the press, particularly those who are fanning the flames of anti-Islam sentiment.
      6. There has been no public sanction of the commander of the Perth, despite clear evidence that he breached the code of conduct viz: (and I’ll quote Kev –
      When I was serving under the colours if you so much as hinted at a political opinion then the chances are you would be asked to resign your commission. Professional ADF Officers are required to be apolitical.
      7. It is reasonable to assume that agreeing to allow your ship to be used as a venue for a political fund raiser, meets the definition of “hinting at a political opinion”.
      Going on Kev’s advice, if the ADF is consistent, Ivan Ingham should have been asked to resign his commission.
      Now I think that would be overkill, the bloke has a brilliant record, but so does Mona Shindy. She saved the taxpayer millions as reported in the Daily Telegraph (so it must be true) – http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/uncharted-watersmeet-the-royal-australian-navys-trailblazing-muslim-captain-mona-shindy/story-fni0cx12-1227588474066
      She was previously charged with turning around the Fast Frigate System Program Office, from an inefficient organisation with adversarial stakeholder relationships, to a collaborative culture with performance-based contracts. And she shaved 30 per cent in costs from a $130 million budget.
      So what’s good for the goose is good for the gander – two high performing Navy officers should be treated the same.
      But one is a Muslim – that says it all, and is the reason her sacking has been called for on this blog.
      Bigotry – pure and simple…..

      • 4. At no time did the skipper of the Perth make any public statement. The reason for this silence is unclear, but it is reasonable to assume that he has been told to leave all comment to the Nationals, to avoid any risk of incriminating himself, and by incriminating himself, also the Navy, of which he is the representative when it comes to what happens on his ship.

        Or he didn’t know about it. Nothing in your linked article says the Captain had been told of the LNP idea.

        On the other hand, everyone who reads does know that Shindy categorically contravened military law on Twitter no less. She retweeted an Imam suggesting Paris was the Wests fault and has made other political statements. This has never been allowed but the fact that she hasn’t been asked to resign suggests to me that CON is of the same mind.

        Your “Look over there – a unicorn” tactic just doesn’t make sense.

  • Or he didn’t know about it.
    And pigs are flying as we speak.
    Do you really believe that flyers would have gone out if Ingham had no knowledge?
    The Imam did not “suggest that Paris was the Wests fault”.
    What he actually said was –
    Statement of 15th November 2015 –
    His Eminence, the Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohammed, and the Australian National Imams Council mourn the loss of innocent lives due to the recent terrorist attacks in France. Almost 130 people were tragically killed and more than 350 injured.
    We would like to convey our deepest condolences to the families and friends of the deceased. We reiterate that the sanctity of human life is guaranteed in Islam.
    These recent incidents highlight the fact that current strategies to deal with the threat of terrorism are not working. It is therefore imperative that all causative factors such as racism, Islamophobia, curtailing freedoms through securitisation, duplicitous foreign
    policies and military intervention must be comprehensively addressed.
    In addition, any discourse which attempts to apportion blame by association or sensationalises violence to stigmatise a certain segment of society only serves to undermine community harmony and safety.
    Credit goes to those who have called for calm and responsibility. We call upon all people of goodwill to stand against fear-mongering and injustice.

    A clarifying statement was made on 17th November –
    In reference to the media release issued by His Eminence, the Grand Mufti of Australia, Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed and the Australian National Imams Council ANIC) on Sunday 15th November.
    We wish to emphasise it is incorrect to imply that the reference to causative factors provides justification for these acts of terrorism. There is no justification for the taking of innocent lives. The sanctity of human life is guaranteed in Islam.
    Dr Ibrahim Abu Mohamed and ANIC have consistently and unequivocally
    condemned all forms of terrorist violence. The Grand Mufti on 15th September 2014 said about ISIS that: “These criminals are committing crimes against humanity and sins against God.”
    Sadly, in the Paris attacks, people of various faith backgrounds including Islam were brutally murdered. We extend once again our deepest condolences to their families and friends.

    Point out where he said the attacks were “the West’s fault”.
    He has been comprehensively verballed. making reference in his statement to “racism, Islamophobia, curtailing freedoms through securitisation, duplicitous foreign policies and military intervention” is not “blaming the West”.
    Whether you like it or not, all of those things are factors in the situation.
    I’d go further than the Mufti. I’d wager that if there had been no military intervention in Iraq in 2003, ISIS would not exist.
    People who know a little bit about the ME are in furious agreement with this.
    In an interview with Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent in 2008, Kilcullen called the decision to invade Iraq “fucking stupid” and suggested that if policy-makers apply his manual’s lessons, similar wars can be avoided in the future. “The biggest stupid idea,” Kilcullen said, “was to invade Iraq in the first place.” Kilcullen didn’t deny saying it, but rather that “I can categorically state that the word ‘fucking’ was said off the record”.
    So the Mufti, in mentioning “military intervention” is in agreement with Kilcullen. Funny, isn’t it, that Kilcullen has not been condemned for that statement.
    So again, it is not what is said (or done) that is the issue – but who says it. So it’s OK for Commander Ingham to provide a venue for a political luncheon on an ADF military asset, but it’s not OK for another senior officer to agree, on social media, with an appeal for reconciliation by a religious leader.
    QED.

    • These recent incidents highlight the fact that current strategies to deal with the threat of terrorism are not working. It is therefore imperative that all causative factors such as racism, Islamophobia, curtailing freedoms through securitisation, duplicitous foreign policies and military intervention must be comprehensively addressed.
      I rest my case

      • You don’t have a case to rest, Kev.

      • She retweets and thus supports the view that blames the West for WTC, Bali, London underground, Paris etc. This is simply enemy propaganda.
        I do have a case but I don’t expect you to acknowledge it…do you support the view that the West is to blame for the uncivilized carnage in the Middle East and elsewhere?

        Islamic terrorists beheading Muslims because of the West…really?

        • Suggest you go back and read the Mufti’s statements carefully. Nowhere in these statements does he “blame the West”. He lists causative factors which provide the terrorists with a rationale.
          His statements do not apportion blame – he simply states they these factors exist, and that current approaches to deal with it are not working. Both points are correct.
          To call that “blaming the West” is quite simply verballing.
          Many of these factors are embedded in the history of the Middle east, and the egg cannot be unscrambled. There is one very clear and stark fact, which is that the rise of ISIS is an outcome which would not have been possible without the military invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the deliberate destruction of its civil and military infrastructure. Obama’s policies haven’t helped, but he was elected on a platform of withdrawing the troops. The point of no return was 20th March 2003 when Bush was President. Obama was not responsible for the invasion which was engineered on the basis of concocted intelligence – http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article5571.htm
          Bush himself stated [my] biggest regret of all the presidency has to have been the intelligence failure in Iraq (BBC Interview – December 2nd 2008).
          The mis-handling of the situation in Iraq is acknowledged by recognised experts such as David Kilcullen. Disenchanted Baathist Party operatives went on to form the backbone of what became ISIS.
          My other suggestion is to get yourself a subscription to the Quarterly Essays and read Kilcullen’s take on the history, and where we should go from here – https://www.quarterlyessay.com/essay/2015/05/blood-year
          Kilcullen does not see military intervention as the solution, and he has exactly the same concerns about curtailing freedoms in this country as the Mufti. He asks how many of our values we are prepared to sacrifice, and how going too far with that brings us to the same moral position as the terrorists.
          (If you can’t afford a sub, I’ll gladly sent you my copy).
          If you’re going to advance an opinion, you should at least back it up with historical fact and informed commentary.
          Otherwise the blog is simply an echo chamber with commentators lining up on the basis of half truth and bigotry.
          Your exhortation to sack Shindy is based on nothing of substance except an apparent intense hatred of Islam. I posted to draw a comparison between what she did, and what the commander of HMAS Perth did. To say that Defence didn’t know about the luncheon is irrelevant. What is relevant is whether or not Ingham knew about it. To claim that his vessel (and HMAS Stirling) was promoted as a venue without his knowledge, or the knowledge of anyone in command is patently ridiculous. The comparison between Shindy and Ingham is valid.
          To sack a senior ADF officer because she affirms statements calling for reconciliation is what you are advocating. This level of hatred is precisely what the terrorists seek to engineer.
          It looks like they’re winning on the basis of what is posted here.

          • To claim that his vessel (and HMAS Stirling) was promoted as a venue without his knowledge, or the knowledge of anyone in command is patently ridiculous.

            Not according to Def Min Payne;

            Senator Payne has distanced herself from the event and said it was “regrettable” the WA Nationals had proposed the idea.

            “My office had no knowledge of the event. I am advised that Navy was not informed that the event, which was originally auctioned to raise money for the Royal Flying Doctor Service, was being billed as a political fundraiser,” she said in a statement.

            To sack a senior ADF officer because she affirms statements calling for reconciliation is what you are advocating.

            No. I’m calling for her to be sacked because she has gone public on her political beliefs. Not on for Officers to do that. They are duty bound to be apolitical.

            The comparison between Shindy and Ingham is valid

            Shindy did espouse her political beliefs in public and Ingham didn’t know. If he had been complicit the Media would’ve been all over it.

            I will not accept that the West have any significant blame for the current situation in the ME although Obama’s withdrawal from the area might have allowed the Reavers to go beserk. They are killing more of their own people than Westerners so what should we do?

            It is therefore imperative that all causative factors such as racism, Islamophobia, curtailing freedoms through securitisation, duplicitous foreign policies and military intervention must be comprehensively addressed.

            Racism and Islamophobia. First, it’s not racist to not like a religion. Secondly why shouldn’t the West be wary of Islamic Reavers. The state they want to kill us all and keep on doing it in between killing their own from another tribe or faction.

  • There is a statement in the link that Kev put up that says, that the Navy had no knowledge of the fund raiser, that the defence department had no knowledge of it. Just why is it so hard for you to admit that this has been stated in the article.
    The article stands as it is, there is no hint, except in your lefty conspiracy mind, that there is anything else to the story.
    Get over yourself and your double standard apples.

  • Not according to Def Min Payne.

    I worked for over 40 years for a large, politically sensitive bureaucracy. During that time I frequently observed the classical bureaucratic response to any media story that is politically embarrassing.
    It’s a simple process. A senior functionary in the Minister’s office assumes all responsibility for dealing with it, and the person in charge at the operational level is firmly instructed (on pain of jeopardising a promising career) to make no comment. The situation is managed by the Minister’s media people who keep a very tight control to ensure no further embarrassment. This is clearly what has happened in the aftermath of this incident, and explains Ingham’s eerie silence.
    Note Payne’s careful use of words. She says – My office had no knowledge of the event. I am advised that Navy was not informed that the event….

    At no time does she get specific – rule one of hosing down a story. Be deliberately vague – provide no direct factual information, as smart media operators will always check it out. Whether her office was informed or not makes no difference. If Ingham agreed to the luncheon, he did so on behalf of the Navy. He is, after all, the representative of the navy on his vessel. Why did Payne not say – The commander of HMAS Perth had no knowledge of the luncheon?
    Probably, because that statement would have been a lie.

    and Ingham didn’t know

    You don’t know that, nor did the Minister say that. Apart from the fact that the Minister’s office (carefully) avoided that specific statement, it is simply not credible. I’ll explain why.
    During my 40 years working for the organisation referred to above, I was a principal of a variety of special schools for about half that time. As a consequence, I developed a fair degree of experience in fund raising which is the bread and butter of P & Cs of schools with kids with disabilities. I was involved in a series of school fetes (Petrie and Mundingburra), charity fashion parades (Mundingburra South) and Open Garden Devonshire Teas (Toowoomba West for eleven years, when my school won the Carnival of Flowers schools garden competition seven years in a row. We made a motza hosting bus tours with people gawking at the winning displays).
    One essential feature of any fund raising event is publicity. Publicity flyers (posters) do this well. I’d like a dollar for every poster I produced through the years.
    We know the proposed Perth luncheon had posters printed. The actual compiling and printing of the brochures has to be done with full knowledge of the person responsible for managing the venue to make sure that all details are correct.
    A very attractive and professional looking brochure was produced and had begun to do the rounds of the Perth community before the function was cancelled. To believe that the person responsible for managing the Venue (HMAS Perth) was completely ignorant of these arrangements, is, to put it mildly, naive.
    To summarise – what we have here is blatantly political behaviour on the part of a senior officer, who was caught out, but protected before too much damage was done.
    Another senior officer retweeted conciliatory remarks from a religious leader. One was sanctioned – one was protected.
    It anyone should be sacked, it is the Defence Minister.

    First, it’s not racist to not like a religion.
    The bulk of the people practicing that religion in this country do belong to a specific racial group. It may not be a technically accurate description. Bigotry is probably more accurate than racism, but both apply.

    The (sic) state they want to kill us all and keep on doing it in between killing their own from another tribe or faction.

    Crikey – I better change GPs. My current one is a practising Muslim. He hasn’t managed to kill me yet. Maybe I’ve just been lucky.

    They are killing more of their own people than Westerners so what should we do?
    Good question Kev. Any bright ideas, apart from calling for the sacking of a senior and successful naval officer with an impressive record of service?

    • a senior and successful naval officer with an impressive record of service?
      Not so. She has publicly sided with the enemy and blamed Islamic terrorism on the West. It may impress you but it doesn’t impress the ex and current sailors. They are livid that she is getting away with it

      Your long winded attempt to find a crime where none exists to defray attention away from Shindy is typical of Lefty denialists and only works among those who are similarly afflicted.

      I’m not.

      Your currently practising Mulsim doctor is obviously not the issue while he doesn’t demand you be decapitated for apostasy.

  • Talking to the barmaid at the pub yesterday and the subject of her son was mentioned. Apparently he has grown up in Australia, got good grades at school and applied for an apprenticeship in the ADF. Got knocked back because he has a Kiwi birth certificate. Apparently not enough capital to be made out of letting our cousins across the ditch into our forces.

    • I remember Doc Savage being told he had to become a citizen to stay in the Army. After Borneo and two tours in Sth Vietnam he was upset but they were the rules. Set, I think by Whitlam in the 70s. It’s not so much the Kiwi Birth Cert but the fact he hasn’t applied and been granted citizenship.

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