Trump and the Climate Change scam

The left are panicking about Trump's dismissal of Climate change and threat to pull out of the Paris Accord. Andrew Light, who served as senior adviser to Todd Stern, Obama's special envoy on climate change who led America's Paris negotiations, says it's too early to know Trump's intentions.

But, apparently, it's not to early to make this outrageous statement.

He says climate change, for instance, is widely seen to have played a role in igniting the Syrian civil war that has led to millions of refugees and the emergence of the so-called Islamic State

And they wonder why skeptics exist.

From The Age so you know it's left skewed but it always pays to read the enemies words

23 comments

  • Bottom line is, it makes little difference what Fatty 5D* does about climate change.

    Most of the climate change action in the US is in the purview of the states – https://www.c2es.org/us-states-regions/key-legislation

    *Trump avoided the draft for Vietnam by being deferred 5 times – https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/02/us/politics/donald-trump-draft-record.html?_r=0.

    • ad hominem. Weight for height and age – not bad. Avoided draft not evaded. “it makes little difference what … the climate change action in the US is” – whatever they do will have little impact on the climate. Keep drinking the cool aid.

  • “Avoided draft not evaded”

    Hahahaha!

    Trump’s thoughts on the war in Vietnam – “Trump said he had strongly opposed United States involvement in Vietnam.
    “I thought it was ridiculous,” he said. “I thought it was another deal where politicians got us into a war where we shouldn’t have been in. And I felt that very strongly from Day 1.”
    The man is a sleaze and a ranting hypocrite. 76% of eligible voters either didn’t vote or voted for someone else.
    His first month has been an unmitigated disaster.
    The courts have put him well and truly in his place, but not before his “executive order” created chaos.
    It will be all downhill from here.

    • Adding eligible voters who did not vote to make it appear that 76% did not vote for Trump is further proof of a poor argument. It could equally be claimed that “76% of eligible voters either didn’t vote or voted for someone” other than Clinton and that she is also a sleaze for protecting her sexual predator and rapist husband who evaded the draft with the help of political and family influence. As for the ranting hypocrites who claim the courts put him well and truly in his place where was the outcry when Clinton and Obama made the same decision.
      http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/2017/02/trump-listens-to-obama-clinton-on-immigration.html

      • “Adding eligible voters who did not vote to make it appear that 76% did not vote for Trump is further proof of a poor argument.”
        “Make it appear?” Not “a poor argument” – it’s fact.
        Tell me what is incorrect or non-factual about this statement – “76% of eligible US voters did not vote for Trump”.

  • Dem Who Lied About Vietnam Service Calls for Extreme Vetting of Gorsuch
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-lied-vietnam-service-calls-extreme-vetting-gorsuch/

    TOM HARKIN, FAKE WAR HERO
    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/archive/archives/017246.php

    Your reliance on low hanging fruit 1735099, only exposes the shallowness of your intellect.

    This shit always gets in the way of genuine criticism.

    “Trump’s thoughts on the war in Vietnam – “Trump said he had strongly opposed United States involvement in Vietnam.
    “I thought it was ridiculous,” he said. “I thought it was another deal where politicians got us into a war where we shouldn’t have been in. And I felt that very strongly from Day 1.”—1735099”

    Are you now a supporter of Vietnam war?

  • “Your reliance on low hanging fruit 1735099, only exposes the shallowness of your intellect.”

    I posted fact – not “low hanging fruit”.

    Trump calls a respected ex-POW a loser, because he can’t take criticism – https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/jul/18/donald-trump-john-mccain-vietnam-iowa-republicans

  • There was no civil unrest in Anadyr today, Tod Stern claimed that was because the temperature was minus 21c.
    Well he didn’t actually, but he would if he spoke to numbers first.

  • The original post was about the climate change scam and an outrageous statement that climate change played a role in igniting the Syrian war, refugees and Islamic State. You made the ad hominem and irrelevant responses of “Fatty 5D”, draft avoidance, “sleaze”, “ranting hypocrite”, immigration executive order etc. I made relevant responses to your diatribe including your misunderstanding of your own comment re 76% of the eligible US voters.
    40% did not vote
    30% voted Clinton
    29% voted Trump
    1% voted Stein
    70% did not vote for Clinton, 70% did not vote for Trump and 99% did not vote for Stein.
    Using your figure of 76% would mean that 52% did not vote, 24% Clinton, 23% Trump and 1% Stein which is incorrect.
    Ease up on the Cool Aid.

    • Simple fact – whichever way you cut it, Trump on 29% does not have the mandate to turn his country inside out.
      Anyone who believes differently is, as you are so fond of saying, drinking deeply of the cool aid.
      He demonstrates, after a very brief time in office, complete ignorance of the constitution he swore to uphold.
      He is thick, and many of his advisers are sycophants. That’s what makes him so dangerous.
      His position on climate change is the least of our worries.
      We can only hope that the few sane individuals in his cabinet (among them Mattis and Pence) can reign him in before he pulls the whole edifice of government down round his (and everybody else’s) ears..

      • And, drinking deeply of the Cool Aid, you believe that Clinton on 30% would have had a mandate to continue the Obama disaster? “He is thick”? – His IQ is higher than Obama and both Clintons. He is dangerous because many of his advisers follow his lead as Commander in Chief? His position on climate change is a breath of fresh air. He will make errors and so will his advisers however the biggest danger is the anarchy indulged in by the Democrats which Obama and Clinton should have immediately quashed. The fact that they did not, or could not, shows their poor leadership and presidential qualities.

  • “the Obama disaster?”
    Let’s analyse what you call the Obama disaster by comparing his record with that of his predecessor –
    1. Obama’s approval rating at the end of his second term – 54%
    Bush’s approval rating at the end of his second term – 27%
    2. Unemployment at the end of Obama’s second term – 5%
    Unemployment at the end of Bush’s term of office – 8.8%
    3. US service personnel killed during Obama’s term of office – 1857.
    US service personnel during Bush’s term of office – 4864.
    4. US civilians killed by terrorists during Obama’s term of office – 159
    US civilians killed by terrorists during Bush’s term of office – 3025
    You need to learn to distinguish fact from opinion.

    “His IQ is higher than Obama and both Clintons.”
    Really? If that’s true, he’s obviously not using it. Or perhaps he can’t read. He wrote an executive order incompatible with his country’s constitution. Whichever way you cut it, that’s not too bright.

    “He is dangerous because many of his advisers follow his lead as Commander in Chief?”
    That’s not correct.
    He tweets first, and his aides scramble to mitigate the damage later. That was the case on his One-China backflip and statements he made about prosecuting Hillary Clinton. Even his supporters (Ben Carson) understand that he’s a loose cannon – “He’s got a pathological temper. … That’s a big problem because you don’t cure that … as an example: child molesting. You don’t cure these people.” (November 12, 2015, CNN interview).

    “anarchy indulged in by the Democrats”
    The real anarchy took place at airports across the USA and all over the world before his illegal and unconstitutional executive order was quashed – http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/world/2017/01/chaos-at-airports-as-trump-s-muslim-ban-kicks-in.html

    “poor leadership and presidential qualities”

    You need to be careful talking about “presidential qualities” in reference to Trump.
    How presidential is it to boast about sexual assault? How presidential is it to smear the POTUS with false claims about his birth certificate for years, and then admit it was all a scam. How presidential is it to ridicule a person with Arthrogryposis on live TV?

    Talking about Trump and presidential qualities resembles discussing Anthony Mundine and humility.

    • “You need to learn to distinguish fact from opinion.” – The approval rating is an opinion poll. Fact – Obama’s rating was 38% in 2011 and 2014 Trumps lowest was 40%. Fact – The average unemployment for the Bush period was 5.31% and for Obama 7.44% (the 3rd highest average since 1948). Blaming Bush for the 911 attack and using the 3000 figure to show that Obama had a better record is absurd. Using WW1 and WW2 service deaths to show how bad a president was during that period would be as absurd as your comparison of Bush and Obama.
      Immigration control is far from over.
      Trump is the Commander in Chief making the tough decisions that Obama could not. Obama is the sycophant and fawning, lickspittle of Saudi Arabia, UN, ISIS, globalists, climate change, social justice warriors, political correctness etc. There is no need for the Trump advisers to be sycophants. They provide the advice and Trump makes a decision.
      “The real anarchy”? Anarchy is disorder as a result of non-recognition of authority which took place during the election and before Trump made any decisions and was encouraged by Obama and Clinton displaying poor leadership and poor presidential qualities.
      Where is your condemnation of the Clinton duo sexual assault and cover up? He did not ridicule Arthrogryposis, he ridiculed poor journalism using the same hand gestures he used when ridiculing other poor journalism. The only thing false about the Obama birth certificate is the birth certificate.
      Out.

  • “Obama’s rating was 38% in 2011”

    Yeah – and he went on to win a second term. Ever heard of the statistical term “outlier”? Look it up. You might also check “cherry-picking” whilst you’re at it.

    “Trumps lowest was 40%.” Yep – lowest on record of any newly-elected president. No honeymoon – Americans aren’t stupid.

    “5.31% and for Obama 7.44% (the 3rd highest average since 1948)”
    I don’t know where you got your figures, but they’re bullshit. I notice you’re not prepared to cite their origin.
    Look at the graphs – http://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president

    “Obama is the sycophant and fawning, lickspittle of Saudi Arabia”
    Really. Why didn’t Trump include the Saudis in his immigration ban? The perpetrators of 9/11 were mostly Saudis. Couldn’t possibly have anything to do with the fact that he does business with them, could it? –
    “The executive order makes no mention of Saudi Arabia, home of 15 of the 19 terrorists involved in the 9/11 attacks. The Trump Organization had incorporated several limited liability companies in preparation for an attempt to build a hotel in Saudi Arabia, showing an interest in expansion in the country.”
    Citation – https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/countries-where-trump-does-business-are-not-hit-by-new-travel-restrictions/2017/01/28/dd40535a-e56b-11e6-a453-19ec4b3d09ba_story.html?utm_term=.50fe43d4cf2d

    “They provide the advice and Trump makes a decision.”
    You’ve got it backwards. Trump goes off like a prawn in the sun, and his advisers work hard to clean up the stench. That’s been the pattern so far.

    “Obama and Clinton displaying poor leadership and poor presidential qualities”
    Show me where they encouraged protests against Trump’s election.
    In fact both Obama and Clinton are on record as being critical of violence directed against Trump.
    Clinton – “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead,” (Concession speech – Nov 9th at Wyndham New Yorker hotel in Midtown Manhattan).
    Obama – “We are not Democrats first. We are not Republicans first. We are Americans first. We are patriots first. We all want what is best for this country.” (Statement on Nov 9th reacting to Clinton’s concession).

    Earlier, Obama had been critical of anti-Trump demonstrations prior to the election – http://www.mediaite.com/online/obama-condemns-protesters-attacking-trump-supporters-not-what-our-democracy-is-about/

    “Where is your condemnation of the Clinton duo sexual assault and cover up?”
    When did Hillary Clinton commit sexual assault and what was the cover up? I’d be prepared to condemn it if it actually happened.

    “using the same hand gestures he used when ridiculing other poor journalism”
    You obviously haven’t seen the grab – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcuWba_HgU

    You’re still having trouble distinguishing fact from opinion.

    .

    • Gallup recorded Obama having a rating of 38% 22/8/11, 39% 28/11/13 and 39% 14/3/14. They are not outliers. Ever heard of an IQR to calculate an outlier? “Look it up”. The ratings are not cherry picked. They are his lowest ratings.

      “5.31% and for Obama 7.44% (the 3rd highest average since 1948) I don’t know where you got your figures, but they’re bullshit. Look at the graphs – http://historyinpieces.com/research/us-unemployment-rates-president” Yes, look at your graphs – “Average Unemployment Rate by Presidency” (2nd from top). Run your cursor over your graph – Bush average 5.31% and Obama average 7.44%.

      Immigration control is far from over.

      If Obama and Clinton had been capable leaders with the requisite presidential qualities they would have quashed the anarchy in its infancy. They were dragged kicking and screaming to make token, insincere ‘comments’ during speeches in relation to the Clinton concession. Clinton applauded the marches and both by omission and abdication of their responsibility provided encouragement.
      http://www.dailyadvertiser.com.au/story/4453625/hillary-clinton-applauds-womens-marches-in-first-video-statement-since-trumps-inauguration/?cs=36

      “You obviously haven’t seen the grab” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZcuWba_HgU
      You obviously haven’t seen other similar grabs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4604reEqk0
      What disability does Ted Cruz have?

      “I’d be prepared to condemn it if it actually happened.” If you can’t conduct reasonable research to make a balanced assessment I am not going to waste my time showing you how.

      I regret playing wack-a-mole with you. It was cruel and I apologise. I have to go and talk with the adults now.

      OUT

      • Dave, he does it where ever he goes, a troll of the worst kind. I mentioned on this blog another site XYZ some time ago, and now he’s putting the same shit on there. He has been reported for threatening another poster on that site. I am going away for a couple of weeks, but when I return I will expose him, even though he uses his real name.

        • This tells you all you need to know about Fatty 5D’s relationship with the truth – http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2017/02/17/donald-trump-press-conference-wild-unhinged/?utm_source=Responsys&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20170217_PM_Update
          Sequence – Trump tells lie at press conference. He claimed he had highest electoral college result since Reagan – in fact, in 2012, former President Obama received 332 electoral votes, and in 2008 Obama won 365 electoral votes.
          Former President Bill Clinton also received more electoral votes than Trump during both of his elections, as did former President George H.W. Bush in 1988.
          A reporter called him on it. Watch the video.
          Trump said his advisers told him “I was given that information,” He said. “Actually, I’ve seen that information around.”
          The fact that what he said was a barefaced lie doesn’t seem to bother him, or the idiots who support him. This will end badly – a POTUS who is a pathological liar.

        • “Dave, he does it where ever he goes, a troll of the worst kind.”
          If calling out bullshit when I see it makes me a troll, then I’ll wear that label with pride.
          “He has been reported for threatening another poster on that site.”
          Really? Post the link.
          And to whom was I reported – and by whom?
          “but when I return I will expose him, even though he uses his real name.”
          So you’ll “expose” someone who’s identity is already available? Sounds really smart.

  • You have been a whoops you whole miserable life.

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